4 Stars for the first pair, not the second
"Im 6 feet tall, 150 pounder. Bought large. I bought a pair of these knickers a month ago. They are pretty awesome. Then i ordered a second pair a month later. TERRY why did you change them?? 1st pair had a mesh pocket and made in China. 2nd pair has fabric pocket, 1st pair fit a bit loose but im ok with that. I don't need a second skin. The second pair is not cut the same. They fit tighter, and the chamois goes up higher in the front. Almost too high. You eliminated the hem at the knee area. Why oh why?? For $160 the knee seems like it is going to stretch out fast with no hem. Then stay stretched out. Seems like they were cheapened up. 2nd pair made in El Salvador. I'll never understand why companies make a great product then go cheapskate on it. Losing the hem does not improve these knickers. I wanted a dozen pair after i got the 1st ones. Not so much now."